I
will begin this part with where we started the journey….from LAX, in tow with
the wife, the 5 month old baby, and a tiny Yorkie…
- Leaving
I
set up a commercial flight from LAX to Seattle (the hub for Patriot Express)
with Virgin America, with a night stay at the Red Lion Hotel (www.redlion.com/seattleairport).
It was additional $100ish
to get the Yorkie in-cabin with us on that flight and it was $100ish to get a
pet friendly room at the hotel for that night as well. There was no particular
reason why I choose Virgin America (they got fancy cabins though), but that hotel
was the closest to the airport that was pet friendly and it has a 24hrs free
shuttle to/from the airport. And I do mean close, like, we could have walked
there if I knew where it was in relation to the airport. But that wasn’t going
to happen anyways, since I had the family in tow and 4 suitcases to lug around.
Overall, I treated this short hop as a test flight for the family, but luckily
the baby didn’t cry and the Yorkie was manageable. We went to bed early and got
an early start on checking for the flight the next morning.
Now, most people will tell you to check in waaaaaaay
early for these types of patriot express flights, but that isn’t really
necessary if you are traveling alone (and don’t care where you sit). BUT, if
you are traveling with a family and during the peak PCS season like I was, you
better check it as early as possible. This will better ensure your family will
be seated near each other and not scattered across the cabin if you wait too
late. I think the reservation ticket said to check in before 5am, but we were
there around 3am, and I think we were the second to last family to check in!
Luckily, AMC personnel have some common sense during this process and have
separate lines for accompanied travelers and unaccompanied travelers. While the
wait in the accompanied line wasn’t too bad, I was apprehensive about getting
seats together with my family. I did notice by the time we got to the counter,
the line for unaccompanied personnel was pretty long still, so I was hoping we
still had a chance to get seats together. Well it kind of worked out, I had a
seat across the aisle from the wife and baby. The plane has the 2-3-2 seat
configuration and I would of like to have the center 3 seats, so it would be
easier for the me and the wife to tend the baby, but none were available by the
time we checked in. So yea we got checked in, and I had to pay another $100ish
fee for the in-cabin pet, and then we waited hours for our flight to take off.
I mention that because this airport doesn’t really open that early in the
morning, so you will be stuck with what you brought to eat/drink until things
start opening up later. I do want to stress that all those fees relating to pet
travel are NOT REIMBRUSABLE on your travel voucher, aka you will not get it
back! Keep that in mind when you are still debating on bringing your pets here.
We had to make a heart-breaking decision after we got on island with our Yorkie,
but more on that later on.
Well, the normal route for the patriot express from
Seattle is Yokota, some Marine base I still can’t remember, and then Kadena.
The flight over the pacific was about 11 hours and when you land in Yokota,
they will let you off for a couple hours. This great to stretch your legs and
they will even let you leave the terminal if you want. We did this, since I
knew some people on Yokota already, and it was nice to meet up with them during
the layover. There is also a spot outside the terminal were you can take your pets
out for some water or to take a leak. What didn’t work out was the bogged down
wifi they had there and a baby had enough of traveling by then. Needless to
say, the next legs were tedious with an “I am so done with traveling!” baby and
I feel sorry for the people next to us…we tried! Well the next stop at that
Marine base, they let you out again (and pets) for a couple of hours, but by
then, everyone just wants to get to Kadena! They did bring a food truck out to
us, which naturally got gutted by the time I got to it. So when you see that truck
roll up, get out there and grab what you can! So after that stop, we finally
got to Kadena around Friday at 8pm-ish. And this is where the fun begins…
- Arriving
So by the time we got to Kadena, I couldn’t feel my
butt, the baby had enough, the wife was frazzled, the Yorkie had a Benadryl
hangover, and a full plane still had to disembark! Stress anyone? Oh did I
mention that it just started pouring rain when we landed? Normally, not a big
deal at a commercial airport, but not at a military airport, where you normally
walk to the arriving terminal. Luckily, they called in some buses to cart us
over to the terminal and I made sure we were on that first bus. We still
managed to get wet, but there was nothing we could do about that, but we got
the some bus seats right up front though to speed up our exit. On the 2 minute
bus ride over I got out our orders, passports, and IDs in hand, to expedite
going through immigration. We were actually the first people though
immigration, and my wife and baby got their passports stamp with the SOFA stamp
(important), and then we went on through to the luggage claim. Oh yea, that
SOFA stamp is just so they can stay as long as you do in Japan as your
dependents, it doesn’t entitle travel out/in to Japan though, more on this in a
later post.
I may have neglected to mention before, but as soon
as I got my official travel reservations from SATO, I made reservations with
the Shogun Inn on Kadena. I made my reservation for 30 days (the max) and I am
glad I did. I was obviously traveling during the peak PCS season and I wasn’t
about to compete with all the other families trying to get a room on base that
night. Trust me it was a huge stress relief knowing that I already had a room
squared away for me and the family after that exhausting travel. This also made
it way easier for my sponsor to cart me over there from the terminal and they
were nice enough to have snacks/water and some baby necessities in the room
waiting for us. A+!
The only deviation to all this was getting our Yorkie
to the Karing Kennels on Kadena, since when I made my billeting reservations
they didn’t have any pet rooms available. That detour cost me about an hour
more, since everyone else was trying to get their pet in there as well. But
luckily, I am proactive and already made reservations way in advance. So I got
the Yorkie squared away and out of his carrier finally and it was around
11pm-ish by the time I got back to hotel.
So needless to say, all of us took a shower and crashed!
- The
Next Day…
I think we
woke up at 6am the next morning! The time difference is brutal, but I think we
got some of the excitement back on being finally here, and that kind of kept us
up after that. The baby was stilling sleeping though at that time, so I and the
wife made a quick mental list on what we needed to do this first weekend on the
island.
1. Cell phones
2. Car
3. Food
Well, 1 and 3 happened, but number 2 won’t happen
until Wednesday of every week, unless you are in a “special” unit. Well, as I
mentioned in Part 3, I was set on AU cell service and Samsung Galaxy 3’s. We
ended up getting Iphone 5’s like 98% everyone else that was on my flight in,
but we went with the iphone 5’s mostly to Facetime the family back in the
States. I have a print out of their pricing at the time, but you can always
find the current pricing on AU’s website (link in Part 3).
AU/KDDI Cell Phone Plans iPhone5
I will try to remember how this all breaks
down, because the way Japanese do their cell service is confusing, but when in
Rome…Simply put, I will use the column on the far left as an example, and I
will simply state that if you went that route and included the16GB iphone in
the price your total would be $92 a month for one phone! And that is with a 24
month contract! The only things you can remove from the monthly cost is the
warranty service and to pay for the phone upfront, not monthly. That would save
you about $25 dollars a month, but a new 16GB iphone 5 here in Okinawa is close
to $600 each, so it is up to you how you want to pay that. Are you confused
yet??? I wouldn’t worry too much about this until you get here, deals change
all the time, and the AU staff is pretty good at explain everything. We went
with the LTE + AU24 plan on two iphone 5’s, which gave us unlimited data,
unlimited minutes/txt between other AU mobile customers and we paid extra for
voicemail. They don’t have “family” plans, so the closest you are going to get
is getting a plan with that AU24 option, which lets you talk/txt to other AU
mobile customers all you want. Long story short, it should be about $110 month
for our 2 phones, and you can use major credit cards to set up auto payments
with AU as well.
There is another cell provider on Kadena as well, it
is Softbank, but I don’t know much about them. They do offer free phones with a
contract, unlike AU, and they have a few more phone/tablet offerings than AU
does. But like anything else overseas, if you are savvy enough, getting your
phone off-base will net you many more phone options and possibility more plan
options as well.
Finally, I do want to clear something up between the
two providers actual cell service though. I heard before I even got to Kadena,
that Softbank coverage wasn’t as good as AU on/off base, which may be true
talking to be people around here. But, I assume everyone gets told this coming
here too, so I think the fair majority of people get AU, with in turn bogs it
down on-base. This manifests itself in a couple ways here, one being you have
to wait your “turn” sometimes when making a call. You know this when you hear a
repeating tone a few seconds or more after you hit call button, before the phone
actually dials the number out. Secondly, while the LTE service is great when
you get it, most of the time you will have 3G data service on base, which means
everyone else will too. This bogs it down and it makes it near impossible to
use the data (aka iMessenger) side of the service at times. How this all boils
down in comparison with Softbank, I am not sure, but these issues may be
something you might want to consider. Simply put, the non-saturated network may
be better than the saturated network, if most of your time will be spent
on-base. Again, I don’t know who is better in this case, but off-base I have
had no issues. Luckily, where I live on-base, I am closer to the cell towers
off-base and I get good LTE service regardless. Speaking of living on-base,
that is the next topic!
- Living
on/off base
As I mentioned in the previous parts, we don’t get a
“choice” in where we will live. I do want to stress that this condition is
applicable to accompanied personnel in all pay grades. If you are unaccompanied
(aka single) personnel in the grades above E4, then your “choice” is off-base,
since Kadena doesn’t have unaccompanied housing on-base anyways. Well, my
single days have been long over, and I will miss living it up off-base overseas
(ah the good times!), but I will focus on the getting accompanied housing on
Kadena next.
The housing on base is managed by amount of bedrooms
and by pay grade. So for example, I am a E7 with 2 dependents (pets don’t
matter), so I eligible for SNCO housing with 3 bedrooms. At the time of my
housing application, SNCO housing on Kadena was around 85% occupied, so on-base
it is! FYI, the occupancy rate has to be about 98% to be allowed to live
off-base. I think the 3 bedroom NCO housing occupancy rate was that at the
time, so there were some families that had to live off-base that were in my
housing in-brief.
The housing management on all the military bases on Okinawa
are consolidated to the housing office on Kadena, so needless to say, they are
way busy! So busy in fact, there were delays for people trying to get housing
assigned in general; thank you budget cuts! Now, I can speak for the Air Force
side of the house, but the other military branches have their own rules on who
gets what when it comes to housing. So for the USAF members, when they get your
application, the housing office will offer your two homes, which you will get
the keys of so you can check them out. But, you have to choose one of them,
even if they both suck. Yup, that is right, even if they offer you some of the
1960’s nuclear bunker/hurricane proof homes here, that somehow still meets DOD
housing requirements, you are stuck with those choices. This is something you
have to understand, because I am sure someone’s spouse is envisioning living in
a beach villa on-base, and they will be raising hell if they get what I am
talking about. So anyways, this is how my situation played out…
Again, being proactive, I sent in my housing
application after I got my orders cut awhile back and I think this helped me
get a home assigned quicker. Either way, you will fill out those forms here
anyways at the housing in-brief. You have to make an appointment at the housing
office to get in that in-brief! They do it every day in the morning and the
slots get filled quickly, and this is the FIRST step to getting anything done
with housing. I repeat, you will not get the ball rolling if you don’t attend
this brief at the housing office. After you attend that brief and fill out the
forms, the waiting game begins. Again, I went during the peak PCS season, so
your mileage may vary at any other time of the year. The best thing to do
during this time is not bug the housing office on where your housing offers are
at, I think this just slows it all down for you. Now, don’t tell anyone from
the AMC flight I was on or anyone that got here a couple of weeks ahead or
behind me, but I got into SNCO housing 2 weeks after landing. I mean keys in
hand and ready to move my stuff in. I have been talking to people around base
and that is definitely not the norm right now, but I am sure it was just
perfect timing on my part; or just luck. I ended up with one of the newer units
up in the hills near Gate 3 of the base. I can’t complain, we got covered
parking, a good view, and the wife is happy (always good, right?).
I almost forgot to mention that you better be
mindful of what you bring here. I know I mentioned something about this in Part
3, but now that we are here, I am happy we downsized before we got here. I don’t
know what the square footage of the other homes on base, by my home is 1600
square feet on-base, and that is an apartment territory where I came from. When
ended up selling more of our stuff after we unpacked, which was pretty easy
here too. You too, will know the power of BooKoo =). It is a free yard sale
site that has an Okinawa section and you can find just about anything one
there. Check it out here… http://okinawa.bookoo.com
One final note about pets and housing and that it is
housing job to house you and your family; not your pets. So while you might
find that appalling, it is in the regulations. We have a small dog, so keeping
him in the house is easy, but if you have a bigger dog, you might run into issues.
And no, you can’t deny the housing offers given to you because it won’t work
out for Fido. It is in the regulations, sorry. Speaking of Fido, get your
tissue box out, because I am going into the next topic…
- Your
Pet vs Okinawa
Now if you remember in the Part 3, many families
have experienced grief and despair in trying to get their pets to Okinawa, only
to decide to leave them behind for many of reasons. Well, we have unfortunately
experienced that grief and despair, but after only being here around 3 weeks.
It all began with Karing Kennels…
Now that last sentence may be a little too dramatic,
but I did end up leaving our Yorkie in the kennels for 2 weeks while we were
waiting for a house. But during those first 72 hours you get on the island, you
have to get your pets to the base vet for a check-up and to get them in the
system here on base. This is on a walk-in basis, so be prepared to wait a while
to get that done. They will also give you a packet with everything you need to
know about having your pet on this island. They recommend starting Heartguard
and flea repellent immediately, since there are a ton of critters that can kill
or maim your pet out here. Thank you, didn’t know that…..Anyways, back to the
kennels, aka jail as I like to call it. I do want to be clear here, that the
kennel facility provided nothing but excellent service and care for my Yorkie,
and I had no issues there. His two week stay was about $300 ish when it was all
said and done, which included food.
Well, once we got our house squared away, I picked
up our Yorkie from the kennel and brought him home. We don’t have a fenced
backyard or anything, so he had to stay in the house for the most part, and we
would take him out so he can do his business throughout the day. And that is where I think he got worms! Yup,
he ended up getting worms, which was a trigger point for the wife. Let me
explain…Before our baby coming, he was our “baby”, so he got all the attention
he wanted. Well, as expected that changed when the baby was born, and only got
worse when we got here. We thought we could handle a growing baby and a young Yorkie,
but it just wasn’t fair to the Yorkie anymore. We knew he needed more attention
and a friend as well, but we just didn’t have the time. So when he got worms,
he was now putting the health of the baby in question, and the wife wasn’t having
that. I know medicine can fix him, but the wife has a true phobia of worm like
stuff, so she wasn’t going to have him roaming the house. So we made the heart
breaking decision to put him up for adoption here. We quickly found a new
loving family that will shower him with all the attention and love he deserved and
we know he is going to be better off.
I do want to mention the cost of bring our pet here,
considering how everything went down here for us. I say the total cost to get
out pet Okinawa ready up to the day we gave him up for adoption was about $600
dollars, and that is using military vets and getting a lucky spot on the patriot
express. I think my situation with getting our pet out here was ideal and I can
see why other families might have to make a tough choice on sending their pets
out here, because it is not cheap. It doesn’t help that any of the cost of
sending your pet out here is not reimbursable either.
Well, that is about it for our pet here, and we are
not planning on anymore anytime soon. I didn’t expect things to go down like
they did when we left, but it is what it is.
- Getting
Wheels
Moving on to a lighter subject, getting some wheels
here on the island is rather easy. The main thing you need is a license to
drive here. So make sure you bring your stateside drivers with you, or get one
in the States if never had one (you know who you are!). If you need to get a driver’s
license here, good luck! It takes time and money here, and I heard people will
spend the money/time just to go back to the states to get one there instead, it
is easier that way I guess! Anyways, every Wednesday they have a mass brief at
the community center here and that is the ONLY time you can get your license (the
test is easy). That is right, just one time a week, even if you land on a Friday
like we did, we had to wait all the way
to the following Wednesday to get a license. While that may seem ok with you,
you need a license to buy a car here, so no license, no car. Fortunately, all
the car dealerships in the area know this and will hold a car for you with a
deposit, until you get that license. Speaking of car dealerships, you will have
many choices to shop at, with plenty of good/bad deals out there. Just do your
homework and make sure to thoroughly poke and prod the car to make sure
everything works and that rust is at the minimum. This place is obviously a
tropical area, so rust can happen to any car, just be mindful of that. I went
with Sunshine Motors, which is out Gate 1 and to the left, go down a few
minutes and you will see it on the right hand side. Here is a picture of their
sign.
I didn't go to them for any particular reason, just
that they had the car I wanted for a decent price. They also have a 3 month
warranty on the car, so if anything goes wrong with it, they will fix it. Most
of the dealerships have some type of warranty, so just shop around. Plus most,
if not all cars offered to military are around 10 years old, so having a
warranty is a plus.
Well, once you get wheels, you will find driving on
the left-hand side not too bad. Just practice driving on Kadena before you
venture off-base, so you are comfortable with the flow of traffic. I have
driven in many different countries before, so it only took me a day or two to
get comfortable with everything.
One final thing about getting a car is get something
practical. I know I have a family, so naturally I need something with some
room, so I ended up with a minivan (I know!). Also, get something within your
means, since you can find some expensive cars out here, and the dealerships
have no problem offering no interest 18 month financing options. While no
interest loans are great, why saddle yourself with a car payment for most of
your tour here? And for the gearheads coming out here, yes there are plenty of
Skylines, Silvias, and Subi’s out here, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Most
are beat to hell, but I think the main killer is the speed limits out here. The
fastest speed limit I have seen out here so far is 60 km/h. That’s right, about
38 mph! So there won’t be that much fast and furious driving out here my friend.
Well, I think that sums up our experiences so far,
which have been mostly positive. We are starting to get used to the
Kadena-izims, which they are plenty. As we venture out from base and start
enjoying the island, I will continue to post our adventures out here. Until
then!
Thanks for sharing your experience! I have enjoyed learning about the process as we gear up to head over there. It has been great to see what you have learned.
ReplyDeleteI am glad you enjoyed it! I hope it took some uncertainty out of your move here.
DeleteSo your experience with Sunshine Motors was good? I'm going to look at a car of theirs tomorrow
ReplyDeleteOverall a pleasant experience, but I do have some pointers on buying from them, or any other dealership for that matter.
Delete1. I think they mentioned to me before that most of their cars are past car rentals, so with that I noticed most had “high” mileage. I say high mileage, but really the average yearly mileage is way low for most of these cars on this island, since how many times can you really drive around the island here?
2. A related issue is that most of their cars are around the 10 year old mark, but that is pretty common here for all the dealerships. Just keep that in mind when you are kicking the tires, they will most likely be loose haha. But really, just going in knowing that NO 10 year car is going to run perfectly for your while tour here, and don’t forget it will be a 13/14 year old car when you try to sell it on the tail end. They do offer a 3 month warranty only, at least when I bought my cars back in August 2013, which is less than what other dealerships out there may offer.
3. You can negotiate the price, so don’t forget that! When I bought from them, they didn’t do that “automatic discount off the sticker price” gimmick thing like other dealerships do. But I found that paying for the car in cash gives some wiggle room on the price with them, but your mileage may vary. I believe they do that 18 month finance option as well, but why saddle yourself with a car payment for most of your time here?
4. If there is any glaring defects that you would like fixed before buying the car, ask them. There were some things I asked about getting fixed on one of their cars that I bought, but not before we agreed on the price of course! =), and they made it happen.
5. They have two car lots. One is off the 58, near Kadena, and the other is near a different military installation. I can’t remember for the life of me where the other is at right now, but if I remember where it is, I will post it here. I am sure you can ask the shop off hwy 58, and they will tell you.
6. Please read my 2014 Road Tax Collection Schedule post, so you can get a better idea of the true cost of driving out here and carefully consider what Y plate series you end up buying into.
I think that is about it. I will admit though, that one car we bought has been a gem for us and I foresee it running fine for us until we leave. But the other car, which was our first one we bought, I should of kicked the tires a little more before we bought it. Let’s just say it is a 10 year old car, and one little thing after another is starting to give out, and it is starting to get expensive to fix all of it. A test drive probably would have found out some of the issues, but they don’t know “test drives” here on Okinawa, which I guess is a bonus for dealerships here! Well after I fix this last issue, let’s just say it might end up on the lemon lot for this upcoming summer PCS season, just saying…
This is really great information thank you! It's nice to hear the experiences of others. It makes life easier for those about to the same thing :). I asked you about transportation in part 3, but I just read part 4. So please disregard. Thanks again!
ReplyDeleteI just read all 4 of your articles. Extremely helpful. My wife is a recent graduate of Lackland AFB. She is at Tec School now, and is freaking out, because her orders, on the computer anyways, says her permanent base will be Kandena. I am a scuba diver and super excited. Maybe not so much now that I read E3's may not get to have there family aka ME with them...What the Hell... waiting, waiting, Might have actaual papers in hand in 5 days. Might know more then. Are you still over there? Please do a Part 5.
ReplyDeleteWell it depends on the military branch on who can bring their families with them automatically, after they are medical cleared that is. Since your wife is Air Force, you should be able to come with her, once you are medically cleared to go. Once that happens you will be on her orders. She needs to work that with her leadership to make that happens before she leaves tech school. I am sure there is more to your situation, so feel free to comment if you still need help.
DeleteP.s. this place is a scuba diver heaven. you will be able to put a lot of hours in here and become a master instructor if you like.
I do have a question, not sure if you are still on here to answer questions. My Fiancé has orders to go there and because he is an NCO, he will live off base. He will get there first before we get married. I also am an NCO, so will I just join him where he lives or will they force him to move because we are mil-to-mil without dependents? Thank you again, you blog is very helpful!
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